tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post7988878856391040621..comments2024-01-07T05:28:45.522-08:00Comments on Thmazing's Thutopia: 6of1Th.http://www.blogger.com/profile/16460795570237872290noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-2622675567981125522008-02-23T00:18:00.000-08:002008-02-23T00:18:00.000-08:00.Thanks..<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Th.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16460795570237872290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-19055079000386780352008-02-22T22:25:00.000-08:002008-02-22T22:25:00.000-08:00I found it:Dumb and DumberI found it:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/14/books/14dumb.html?scp=1&sq=are+americans+dumb&st=nyt" REL="nofollow">Dumb and Dumber</A>FoxyJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17950095008611661757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-29669353020048698082008-02-22T19:52:00.000-08:002008-02-22T19:52:00.000-08:00.I couldn't find the editorial, Foxy. Do you know ....<BR/><BR/>I couldn't find the editorial, Foxy. Do you know the URL still, by chance?Th.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16460795570237872290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-68823891591017101992008-02-22T19:32:00.000-08:002008-02-22T19:32:00.000-08:00.Yes, Petra showed me. Very cool. I'm a big star n....<BR/><BR/>Yes, Petra showed me. Very cool. I'm a big star now!Th.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16460795570237872290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-7564285238508967662008-02-22T19:30:00.000-08:002008-02-22T19:30:00.000-08:00There was a recent editorial in the NY Times about...There was a recent editorial in the NY Times about the cultural trend in the US to glorify ignorance. It was interesting.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and did you know that they are discussing you on By Common Consent?FoxyJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17950095008611661757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-55757301023447269112008-02-22T19:14:00.000-08:002008-02-22T19:14:00.000-08:00.Ironic, since I used her as a good example. But s....<BR/><BR/>Ironic, since I used her as a <I>good</I> example. But since the song is actually <I>anti</I>-ignorant, should be okay.Th.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16460795570237872290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-81651056699107389972008-02-22T15:30:00.000-08:002008-02-22T15:30:00.000-08:00(I posted the above, btw. I just Googled "lyrics i...(I posted the above, btw. I just Googled "lyrics ignorance" and YouTubed the title that came up most often.<BR/><BR/>Helpful? Probably not.)Schmetterlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10188647121762378788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-16773068082484837852008-02-22T15:29:00.000-08:002008-02-22T15:29:00.000-08:00Don't wanna read the paperI don't like bad newsLas...Don't wanna read the paper<BR/>I don't like bad news<BR/>Last night a man got shot<BR/>Outside the house of blues<BR/>I'd like to ignore it<BR/>I'd like to just pretend<BR/>That the reason for it<BR/>Is something I can comprehend<BR/><BR/>I don't listen to the radio<BR/>Last time it made me cry<BR/>Two boys went crazy<BR/>Fifteen kids died<BR/>And I don't know their families<BR/>I don't ask 'em how they're going<BR/>They're on the other side of the world<BR/>But it's way too close to home<BR/><BR/>I've got something to say<BR/>And I thought it might be worth a<BR/>mention<BR/>If you're not pissed off at the world<BR/>Then you're just not paying attention<BR/>And you can turn off the TV<BR/>And go about your day<BR/>But just 'cos you don't see it<BR/>It don't mean its gone away hey<BR/><BR/>We don't talk to our neighbours<BR/>They've got funny coloured skin<BR/>We see 'em out on the sidewalk<BR/>But we don't invite 'em in<BR/>We only eat when we're hungry<BR/>And we throw the rest away<BR/>While babies in Cambodia<BR/>Are starving everyday<BR/><BR/>We risk our lives<BR/>We hit our wives<BR/>We act like everything is funny<BR/>We hide our pain<BR/>While we go insane<BR/>We sell our souls for money<BR/>We curse our mums<BR/>We build our bombs<BR/>We make our children cry<BR/>We watch the band<BR/>While Vietnam<BR/>Just watch their children dieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-59134993168938535642008-02-22T11:44:00.000-08:002008-02-22T11:44:00.000-08:00"But pride in ignorance is often taken by those wi..."But pride in ignorance is often taken by those with the biggest twang."<BR/><BR/>You have <I>no idea</I> how much this quote made me smile--you also have no idea how much I needed to smile . . .Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07232286196928844543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-71503537942585897612008-02-22T11:31:00.000-08:002008-02-22T11:31:00.000-08:00.I should point out here that I don't hate either ....<BR/><BR/>I should point out here that I don't hate either genre. Proof of that is all over Thmusings -- <A HREF="http://thmazing.blogspot.com/2007/09/chambers-of-oz.html" REL="nofollow">this</A> is an obvious one for country (but <A HREF="http://thmazing.blogspot.com/2006/10/like-good-fob.html" REL="nofollow">this</A> was all I found in twenty seconds for hiphop).<BR/><BR/>And yes, it is much more of a problem in <I>pop</I> varietals.<BR/><BR/>In country music, this pose often comes in the form of boasting about downhome smarts being better than school smarts, or the kid who stayed home being better than the kid who left town for college, or this sort of thing.<BR/><BR/>It's important to note that celebrating, say, the guy who works a forty-hour week for a living, is not that same as rejecting intelligence. But pride in ignorance is often taken by those with the biggest twang.<BR/><BR/>I also find it interesting that these two forms of pop music have the most pronounced and deliberate nonstandard accent.<BR/><BR/>As for your conjecture, Mr Fob, I was just reading that until recent decades, finding a means to education was long a means of huge pride to African Americans and even in slave days people would make efforts to educate themselves. Frederick Douglass is still a hero. But would he be if he were alive today?<BR/><BR/>I'm taking a class in that stuff now and so my mind is filled with Critical Race Theory etc and I may need a nap.Th.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16460795570237872290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-1684149911902183502008-02-22T09:36:00.000-08:002008-02-22T09:36:00.000-08:00Could you give of an example of the kind of delibe...Could you give of an example of the kind of deliberate claim to ignorance you're referring to in a country song?<BR/><BR/>(P.S. Does it make me somewhat ignorant to have blogged using an Alabama song as framework? They're country-ish)Katiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07232286196928844543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15224520.post-87699515895681161242008-02-22T09:16:00.000-08:002008-02-22T09:16:00.000-08:00I'd agree with you so long as we're talking about ...I'd agree with you so long as we're talking about <I>pop</I> hip hop and <I>pop</I> country. There's a lot of music that falls under either umbrella that doesn't pride itself on ignorance. <BR/><BR/>I think the two genres have a lot in common, actually--a propensity toward narrative, religious elements, complaints about how horrible my life is. I'm guessing the similarities come from their common roots in slave spirituals, which may likely have taken pride in their ignorance as opposed to their educated masters (though this last part is entirely conjecture made up right at this moment).B.G. Christensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01604354633985676126noreply@blogger.com